Apparently there was a secret meeting between admins of big Fedi instances and Meta, closed under an NDA, and of course they’re not saying anything.
https://mastodon.social/@Gargron/110548174843564104 (Now deleted even from Internet Archive)
https://mstdn.social/@rysiek/110548129223290575
https://universeodon.com/@supernovae/110521648872299829
Somebody already made a pact to publicly commit admins to block Meta
Now we see why concentrating users on big instances is a liability
Update: Supernaut directly stated that he hasn’t been contacted or attended a meeting, and went further to set up a page to visualize instances entering the Anti-Meta Fedipact
A community dedicated to fediverse news and discussion.
Fediverse is a portmanteau of “federation” and “universe”.
Getting started on Fediverse;
So, I don’t think the NDA thing is really that bad. Corporations do that, and these admins have already decided that they are going to play nice, at least in the short term, so an NDA is the price of admission for learning more about what’s going to happen.
There are deeper problems IMO.
All together, both this failure of leadership and obsequiousness, are reason enough for many to get iffy about how much they want these people as their admins.
By contrast, I’ve seen hachyderm (my mastodon instance) and fosstodon make relatively clear statements about how they’re approaching the situation and how they’re quite willing to defederate should dodgy behaviour arise. The admin of calckey.social is starting a
notmeta.social
instance (that’s literally the domain) that will not federate.Some of these other admins with their relatively bootlicker postures, however, seem like they want something out of this, and as a user, that’s usually a sign that you’re taken for granted.
Seems like a lot of overreaction. Maybe meta just wants to throw money this way to take down Reddit. There’s not much harm in finding out.
Hopefully they insisted on an expiration of the NDA.
This is a very “if Walmart wants to open a supercenter in our tiny little town there’s not much harm in letting them, after all our local mom and pop shops will always be available if we need to kick them out!” – Facebook has done this many times before, by the time the jig is up it’s too late to undo.
What the fuck happened with Supernovae?! Is this trolling? How the hell can he not see that he’s selling everyone down the damn river. Meta is not to be trusted! We all left cesspools like Facebook to escape the Zuck. Why in the mf is Supernovae even considering this much less actually doing it? Can someone please tell me he’s just trolling, please?
Apparently he has a history of behavior that led to mastodon.art defederating from Universeodon, seems to be a true techbro (P92 is the Meta thing, he seems to have dollar signs in his eyes at the mention of it)
Ah yes, when capitalists infect free open source software.
Knee jerk reaction oh hell no.
When I calm my emotions and think about it, they’re talking to the founders of the software of the Fediverse. They aren’t talking to the maintainers of ActivityPub. In either case the software can be forked and people can move.
However, NDAs are complete bullshit. You gain nothing, so even the benefit of the doubt can be used against you. They’re completely against what the Fediverse is about. And now we can legally NEVER know what was discussed else a few devs doing this for fun and are single devs can be sued into oblivion by one of the most powerful and toxic companies on the planet.
I already am not on Mastodon and I don’t really use PixelFed, but this is classic FB and already sets the precedent of how they want to act within the open set of communities. Anything they touch should instantly be defederated imo.
They have shown time and time again their true colors and they come to us, not with open arms, but behind lawyers and courts. Fuck you Facebook and the toxic money driven bullshit you bring with you.
And anyone that works at Facebook, you’re in the same boat. There’s no turning that ship, you will never chnge it from the inside or out, you will NEVER be able to do the right thing, you do it for money. You are an accomplice, you will NEVER be the moral compass that makes it right, because it’s built on lies for MONEY and nothing else.
Facebook is a detriment to mankind.
I could understand an NDA if you’re talking about the particulars of the backend, but the fact that we don’t know what the NDA contains, AND the author of the entire protocol hasn’t been approached doesn’t bode well (https://octodon.social/@cwebber/110567421460454488)
@UnkTheUnk
Reread the post you quoted, it’s not a fact.
I don’t know what you mean here
There seems to be a misunderstanding about NDAs.
Meta and twitter most certainly federate already.
Would you sign an NDA to learn how and where?