Why would I want to follow either account?

Basically, Lemmy communities and Kbin magazines are federated as groups to the micro and macroblogging fediverse. People in friendica, mastodon or Firefish can interact with Lemmy and kbin by mentioning a community/magazine in their posts and following them the way they do with other types of federated groups (like guppe, chirp, friendica forums, etc)

Pixelfed didn’t have federates group support, meaning that its federation with the threadiverse was bad, not to say practically non-existent. Supporting federated groups and even having its own type of group will allow people on pixelfed to interact with Lemmy and Kbin the way other fediverse software do: following them and tagging the community/magazine handle in posts.

short summary: It means better federation between Pixelfed, and Lemmy and Kbin.

What they don’t seem to understand is that in the fediverse it’s them who are responsible for curating their own experience, there’s no big content algorithm doing it for them here.

It’s their job to join communities they may like and then set their main page to “subscribed”. They don’t have to keep it set in “ALL” if they don’t want to see content from all the servers their server federates with/isn’t defederated from.

Lemmy and kbin may be discussion platforms/link aggregators, but they aren’t reddit.

For what I understand Meta only reached Mastodon/Misskey/Pleroma and PixelFed instance admins. There hasn’t been mention of they even reaching Friendica/socialhome/hubzilla admins. So I doubt they even care contacting admins from “non-competing” software based servers

Also, I don’t think the NDA stops admins from disclosing they were contacted by Meta. It only stops them to talk about what’s been discussed on these reunions, because several tech bros at mastodon where prouly announcing they were “invited by Meta to a talk about the future of the Fediverse” and how they accepted. So the admins of Lemmy World deciding not to confirm or deny doesn’t necessarily prove they signed anything.

Recommending profiles to follow is already part of the onboarding process, and is not in any way equivalent to “pushing profiles for you to see”.

So, if its already possible. What would your freemium features add?

There is no “TOS” for the fediverse software.

Each software has, in fact, its rules/terms. Peertube, for example, is explicitly non-profit.

Look, I really tried to keep an open mind about this conversation, but now you are distorting the truth and I can’t tell if it’s for ignorance or dishonesty. I think it’s time to end it. Have a nice one.

To me what you are doing trying to monetise something that is completely free of charge, while pretending you are doing it to promote the fediverse, “making it mainstream” (the last thing the hardcore fedizens want), IS dishonest. So I guess we are even.

You do know you can’t make money out of any fediverse software, don’t you? You can make money on the fediverse, like artists and professionals do, but you can’t make money out of it.

From mastodon main page:

We respect your agency. Your feed is curated and created by you. We will never serve ads or push profiles for you to see.

This goes in contradiction with an option on one of your polls:

Better recommendations on who to follow

Other than accounts that suggest you people to follow on the fediverse, there’s no algorithm that recommends you accounts to follow or content to see. In fact, this very thing would go against the TOS of Mastodon, Peertube, and other fediverse software

You could make your own software that offers those things and give users the posibility/ability to federate, but you cannot legally add premium features or recommendation algorithms to already existing fediverse software or any fork of it.

If you go take a look at my first blog post about communick, you would see that the last thing I want to have is a “Corporation” in the Fediverse, but instead I want to have it strong and attractive enough for small, independent service providers

No. What you want is to make money out of decentralised social media.

Not every business is a “corporation”. Not every professional that provides a service for money is a rent-seeker

People offering their services and talent for money already exist on the fediverse.

The fact that there are “business coming to the fediverse” does not mean that they can only operate on the same (failed) business models from Big Tech.

Funny. Because in the polls you asked a question about features someone would be interested in pay for. Some of which are characteristical of corporate social media…

your use of the “Royal We” to express a personal opinion.

You do understand that it’s an expression, don’t you?

not backing up said opinion with any type of argument, which makes it sound like you are simply stating it as a fact.

It’s a fact. Monetisation of any kind is against the mere idea of federated social media. People com here to be away from corporations, advertising and the like. The model of social media that seeks to make social networking into a business model is in crisis, why would anyone want to made the fediverse into that?

I see you have trouble with people not agreeing with you…

We definitely do not need business or premium services here.

Reddit had/has the same problem. It’s just that federation makes it way more obvious on the threadiverse.

All platforms on the fediverse interact because they are part of the same protocol, ActivityPub. (While there are more federated and decentralised protocols, “Fediverse” refers to ActivityPub based social network)

Other federated and/or decentralised platforms have other protocols, for example Diaspora* which has its own protocol, also supported by Hubzilla (which main protocol is Zot and also supports AP), Friendica (also AP and Ostatus) and SocialHome. Or Ostatus (GNU Social, Pleroma (also AP), and Matrix (Matrix)

A social media can interact with other social media that share the same protocol.

so Friendica can interact with Diaspora, Lemmy and GNU social, because it supports Diapora*, AP and OStatus, but the other three, being mono-protocol cannot interact with each other.

No federated alternative as of yet. It’s one of the platform types that the fediverse is lacking.

Dreamwidth (which is not a platform to host fanfiction, but rather to discuss it, share recs, etc) has had federation proposals, but nothing has come out of them.

WriteFreely is in the fediverse, but it’s more of a blog platform the style of blogger, wordpress, or medium.