If you argue that any attempt to resolve an economic dispute(that apple is mine!) is through government, then yes, they will exist as long as we do.

I’ll stop fighting when Meta no longer exists.

I think this needs to be a cultural change and for our tools to be self employed and socially spread. We cant rely on admins, mods or botcheckers as they may be corrupt or make mistakes. If there are any serious efforts against bots I’d like to know about em.

You are the one acting in bad faith and i suspect you don’t actually know what that means. I’m not denying that I’m also stirring the pot.

You are correct that its up to their admins, I would just prefer a bit of a mission statement making it more obvious they have corporate ambitions.

Dude said he denied a meeting. I believe him. If someone else didn’t- I don’t fucking care. And I think the fact that this matters so much to you should be a clear indication that you need a hobby. It’s a social media site. Nothing more.

When did he deny? I haven’t been checking other posts lately. Link please

I’m done with replying in this post, If you don’t give a link then you are the one acting in bad faith.

It’d be sweet if people learned more and talked less, then they would have realised the nazis bad, and the end of the world wont happen because of that silly prediction.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Facebook

https://www.abc.net.au/religion/facebook-complicity-in-the-rohingya-genocide/13737882

I haven’t fully verified those two, but they give a hint. If you’d like to stop assuming and start understanding why some people are deeply worried then you can try and learn.

People weren’t particularly afraid of nazis for a little bit too long too.

The OP seemed desperate for confirmation before he felt compelled to leave. He was talking rationally in his post.

If you have an entire secret meeting that’s NDA enforced, then you literally cannot speak about the existence or your participation in it legally.

As a server admin, he should really be on top of stuff like this. It’d be a fairly quick thing to mention, and the fact that he didn’t means he likely signed an NDA. He doesn’t NEED to prove it, but everyone should turn their backs on him for not CHOOSING to prove it(because he likely cannot legally).

Many people came here to escape exactly what is now happening. There will obviously be passionate people venting or trying to understand this. The people that are on your side though, tend to fight dirty and say invalid things. Meta is evil, i don’t want to be near it, a contract with meta starts the death of a thousand cuts, and people wont remember what we are saying when they finally leave.

Meta is stirring the pot, the admins are. If i just knew they stood against what the average FOSS server stands for in their FAQ or something I would have never gone there, and neither would the people complaining. I can’t stress just how bad this is, but most people don’t know the deeper political/corporate side of this.

I’m not starting convos about this anymore, just replying to other comments and the likes. I’d rather we get some basic transparency from the admins nearby, but I already left over it because of it.

OP is asking for confirmation in an announcement - Copy pasting from my comment here

All that matters about the OPs claim is that the admins need to say they aren’t contracted with meta, but they haven’t, which is damning evidence that they have signed at least one contract with Meta.

It’s simple logic.

1. Lies or truths about an NDA silenced meeting with Mastodon admins.
2. Extrapolating that idea that an NDA may exist or have been signed onto all instance admins
3. Asking for a statement from the admins proving that there are no NDAs in place with Meta by the lemmy.world admins

Then reliable absolute silence about being contracted or not with Meta.

There are honorable easy to talk about complaints, and there are dishonorable annoying people that can’t be reasoned with. The issue would be resolved in a minute if both parties were civil. This is an existential threat for lemmy.

If you don’t like pizza, don’t go into a pizza shop and tell them to shut up about pizza? You coulda downvoted and moved on.

It gives them a secret way to start deeper negotiations. Pretty much this is the end of any openness and community focus the instance has. The contents don’t matter as much as the symbolism of having participated. I’ll ask you Alethecrow, how many millions would it take you to agree to working for them and pretending to be working only for yourself?

All that matters about the OPs claim is that the admins need to say they aren’t contracted with meta, but they haven’t, which is damning evidence that they have signed at least one contract with Meta.

It’s simple logic.

1. Lies or truths about an NDA silenced meeting with Mastodon admins.
2. Extrapolating that idea that an NDA may exist or have been signed onto all instance admins
3. Asking for a statement from the admins proving that there are no NDAs in place with Meta by the lemmy.world admins

Then reliable absolute silence about being contracted or not with Meta. Followed of course by mass downvotes when it makes no sense to do so.

See all the bots saying the same silly responses over and over about no evidence, then massively downvoting people who are clearly rational.

I feel the average person has no idea that we will lose this battle step by step. You guys have the right idea, but many just cant see the risk until after it happens.

My response is a good faith attempt to talk about the possibility of them expanding in a realistic and likely direction. Your response is entirely bad faith. My title is about as boring as could be, not clickbait and hypotheticals don’t need to be based in reality. Threads has also federated in(as in its in the instance whitelist), and my hypothetical was the part where they properly federate into lemmy, you are wrong on all account and are acting like a bot.

I don’t see any relevance between your response and my post, can you explain what that link has to do with a possible v2 of threads.net that has a reddit style mode?

For the record, it seems threads.net is added to the instance list of lemmy.world.

I have strong feelings about reddit being infested with bots too. And because reddit could, there’s no reason lemmy doesn’t have the same issue.

it didn’t really bother me

Bot armies could have hidden things from you that would bother you deeply, but because it’s hidden, you don’t have a chance to be bothered.

Interesting idea.

If we could run microcommunities with single mods, that lock when we sleep and are invite only to post or comment, it’d be a pretty fun experiment. I could invite a dozen interesting people and we could just slowly chat away, id ban em if they break the simple rules and delete their post/comments. Anyone would be able to view it, like a blog and if they want to comment they can always make their own post for comments in their own microcommunity. You could be subscribed to stuff you actually care about, although it’d take a while. Some people could make content copy microcoms where they just solo post from reddit or whatever.

Nazis will always act in bad faith and it shouldn’t surprise us when they use their 10 alts to fuck up voting, which is another reason to hide votes and focus on commenting rather than voting. Although i don’t agree with the negative style of confrontation, the positive and neutral are great though. Commentate on each bad faith action they take in real time so the audience understands how stupid nazis are, and becomes resistant to bad faith tactics.