These fediverse reports are cool, thanks for sharing.

Also the article had a great link to how Mastodon and Lemmy work internally with ActivityPub. Here’s the direct link the article provides to how Lemmy works:

https://seb.jambor.dev/posts/understanding-activitypub-part-2-lemmy/

Refreshingly candid and thorough.

I know they were going to start using Cloudflare, which will handle DDOS among other things. Not sure if they have started yet.

that is total nonsense

While reading this thread, your comments stood out to me as seeming inflammatory. Instead of making a statement like that, maybe make a good counter argument?

This is a fantastic point. The more the financial burden falls on one person, the more likely it is that at some point the expense will become too great for that individual admin to carry.

So from a financial perspective it makes a lot of sense to have many small/medium sized instances rather than a few large ones.

You suggest when an instance reaches a given size, stop recommending it. Totally agree. Based on known expenses for instances, it might not be a bad idea to have a recommended threshold (number of users) at which to stop or slow signups as well.

There are several places that would need to be updated when it comes to recommending instances. One that comes to my mind right away is apps. Several apps only list the top 4-5 instances when signing up. And default to Lemmy.world. It’s not a great situation to be in, but I think we can make a change if this info gets circulated more broadly.

Yep, I agree. Consider the scenario of, for a number of months, donations don’t reach that 80 euro number. If the admin simply doesn’t have that 80 euros, they have much more motivation to terminate the instance immediately.

I don’t think 80 euros per month is an unreasonable “last resort” for an admin to be able to float for at least a few months if absolutely necessary to give users a heads up the instance will be shutting down.

I don’t think 80 euros per month is an unreasonable hosting bill, either. However, compare that number with the number Beehaw lists on their financials for August: https://beehaw.org/post/6921483. $523.79. (That’s a total cost number, not just hosting)

With all this said, I do absolutely think sites should ideally run purely from donations. However, I don’t think a prospective admin should jump in and create an instance unless they are aware of the potential costs that may fall on them, and be able to handle those costs independently for 2-3 months to give users a chance to migrate.

My opinions are the same as yours, in my little experience. There’s not a lot of content on there, you can’t see content from other instances, and the content that is on there is not high quality.

One thought that crossed my mind was having a PeerTube instance backing each of the major Lemmy instances for video upload. Anything to reduce our dependence on corporate frequently used sites like YouTube and imgr.

Ok so here’s where it starts falling apart in my head. First, as another poster mentioned, the costs would be through the roof compared to a link aggregating site like Lemmy. From what I understand PeerTube does some Bit torrenty stuff to reduce bandwidth usage. And IPFS could help as well. But at the end of the day you need a server hosting this as a source of truth, with the monumental cost that accounts for.

The other huge problem is moderation. We need strong moderation because jackasses are going to upload CSAM. As single files. Spliced into the middle of legitimate videos. And the fediverse is way too important to have it be associated with that crap. So like I said, extremely strong moderation, for free.

I want to see Peertube take off and overcome these hurdles. If there’s anything I can help develop I’d be happy to take on a ticket.

It would be interesting if when creating account on a website, along with “Signup with Facebook” and “Signup with Google” there was a “Signup with Mastodon”. Not sure if that would be good or bad.

When a company says “a long way out” it often ends up meaning “never”. Fingers crossed.

Agreed. Ideally we would be able to completely migrate identities between instances. I know Mastodon has this capability (haven’t tried it, don’t know how difficult it is).

I’m not on Beehaw, but it seems well run based on the decisions they make and who they let in.

I’m very interested to see where this goes.

I don’t think Threads poses a threat to Mastodon. It’s (mostly) a different user base. However, I do think Threads can knock out Twitter.

I’ve got my popcorn out.

Should work for an instance of the set size you are looking for (250).

Since you will be looking through post history to see if the user is active, are their certain behaviors you see that would disqualify a user from joining?

Awesome thanks so much!

I hear a lot about Matrix, but the instructions for self hosting seem very complicated. If anyone has a simpler method, or script I’d be happy to use it.

Very interesting. Kind of setting up discussion groups for the Lemmy community for articles that may not have their own. I’ll check it out.

Interesting. I wonder what the reaction of other admins will be. I imagine some will be interested in talking with Meta and federating with them?

That’s the rumor. Personally I’m for it since I dislike Twitter even more than I dislike Meta. How Meta’s federation goes, well we’ll see.