We’ve changed our name to Israel. - The Admins.

True that. If you look at posts on lemmy.world though, it’s clear their users (which is like 50% of Lemmy) have zero clue they’re defederated ATM, and probably many that don’t know it’s compromised.

lol

They are still acting on it, seems.

I didn’t want to say it, because I wanted to believe :(

That’s fair. I shouldn’t have said “replace reddit.”

mastodon.world seems okay, but whos to say where the silos are between that and lemmy.world.

TBF modern browsers are remarkably secure from being a vector to pwn your computer these days.

EDIT: I don’t endorse hanging out on a compromised lemmy.world. Focus on the implication for the bigger lemmyverse though. A hack coming through to you is unlikely.

All the bean memes are in danger! On a serious note, old-skool or not, it’s a huge loss of trust in something the community-at-large is excited to see replace reddit.

I wouldn’t assume reasons why or that it’s fixed until that consensus has been more widely reached.

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I didn’t mean YOU are being a dick. If SOMEONE creates “alt” accounts for the sole purpose of vote manipulation, they’re being a dick. I was using the royal “you,” a weird english language thing. You, yourself, are not a dick. We’ll you might be, but I don’t think so.

LLM bots has make this approach much less effective though. I can just leave my bots for a few months or a year to get reputation, automate them in a way that they are completely indistinguishable from a natural looking 200 users, making my opinion carry 200x the weight. Mostly for free. A person with money could do so much more.

Your right. You just asked what a “fake account” was though. I think it’s generally accepted that if you create “alt” accounts for the sole purpose of vote manipulation, you’re being a dick.

I just mean that the karma system ala Reddit did more than just keep track of it and display it afaik. The data is in the db but a fully done karma system it is not. I could be wrong.

And it’s only a matter of time until that detection can be evaded. The knife cuts both ways. Automation and the availability of internet resources makes this back and forth inevitable and unending. The devs, instance admins and users that coalesce to make the “Lemmy” have to be dedicated to that. Everyone else will just kind of fade away as edge cases or slow death.

The data to build it is there. Ftfy

Agree. Farming karma is nothing compared to making a single individual polar-opinion APPEAR as though it is other’s (or most’s) polar-opinion. We know that other’s opinions are not our own, but they do influence our opinions. It’s pretty important that either 1) like numbers mean nothing, in which case hot/active/etc. are meaningless or 2) we work together to ensure trust in like numbers.

In this context it would be an account with the sole purpose of boosting the visible popularity of a post or comment.

IMO, likes need to be handled with supreme prejudice by the Lemmy software. A lot of thought needs to go into this. There are so many cases where the software could reject a likely fake like that would have near zero chance of rejecting valid likes. Putting this policing on instance admins is a recipe for failure.