So far, the majority of content that approaches spam I’ve come across on Lemmy has been posts on !fediverse@lemmy.ml which highlight an issue attributed to the fediverse, but which ultimately have a corollary issue on centralised platforms.
Obviously there are challenges to address running any user-content hosting website, and since Lemmy is a comminity-driven project, it behooves the community to be aware of these challenges and actively resolve them.
But a lot of posts, intentionally or not, verge on the implication that the fediverse uniquely has the problem, which just feeds into the astroturfing of large, centralized media.
My first concern is that if the platform is open source someone can host a malicious version of it, where certain requests may be ignored (such as deletion).
Just so you know, this is not a fefiverse specific issue. Third party websites have cropped up to scrape sites like Reddit and post archived versions of undeleted posts for decades. I’m not sure your concern relates to the fefiverse at all.
Bloonface.com has been posting anti-fediverse propaganda for a while now. It’s time to stop listening to what they have to say.
https://lemmy.world/c/news@beehaw.org is up to date, my dude.
Lemmy.world users can upvote and reply to /c/news@beehaw.org and this will be broadcast to other instances (like I can see those upvotes and replies on lemmy.ml) but beehaw.org users won’t see them.
Defederation blocks specific fediverse content from appearing in the server doing the blocking only. It’s NOT a censorship or privacy tool. It doesn’t stop blocked servers from pulling content (a pointless endeavour anyway since all information is public by default and could in theory be pulled from unblocked third parties). Defederation is specifically a tool to control what instances are available to view from the instance doing the defederation, and perhaps most importantly, to keep content legal for one server to host entirely off a server where that content is not permitted (like Nazi stuff in Germany, or porn in many other places)
The search engines are increasingly becoming enshitified anyway. I no longer think being found on Google is going to be the hallmark of success long term it was purported to be. We need a new search paradigm. And I don’t just mean reinventing search engines. I mean new ways of organizing content and answering search queries. Or better funding models for indexed search.
The threat right now is from Meta, that is eyeing the fediverse, not Google.
For anyone paying attention, I’m going to sound like a broken record here, but it bears repeating: business models that treat the user as the product–to be sold, not catered to–is a cancer on the internet.
This ought to be a wakeup call in 2023. If you aren’t the paying customer/supporter, you are less than dirt on the underside of the boot of the big tech firms. You are cattle, in a factory farm, to be treated like shit, only to be slaughtered for profit at the next opportunity.
Attitude’s like “I don’t care about ads” and “my data is worthless to me, so why not trade it in” all mask the more fundamental problem that is that you are being held in a cage full of shit, when in reality you could be roaming free in a pasture.
Federation can get messy when you start to compare instances between each other.
- For one some instances disable down votes, so may count differently.
- Then you might see delays in synchronisation for whatever reason.
- Finally, federation & defederation. suppose you have instance A, B, C, and D but instance A has blocked C. Users on C comment in and upvote content on D. Instances A&B will download a copy of the stuff posted by D users, but only B will have upvotes contributed by C. Therefore, different upvotes counts.
And that’s just what I am aware of.
Welcome to the fediverse!
Reddit won’t. You hold out hope that Reddit will improve your experience. But you are not the customer though, so why would you expect them to?
Reddit’s valuation has grown tremendously over the years. From a few million, to 15 billion. It is now beholden to many stakeholders (and soon many more with the IPO) expecting a return on investment. Reddit is a factory farm, and you are a chicken in a shitty cage happy to lay eggs for no pay.
If you are okay with that, then by all means. đź‘Ť
But I’ve come to realize that free run chicken eggs taste a hole lot better, even if there are fewer of them.
“Servers? Instances? Is this a place to connect with my friends or a goddamn server room?”
That’s not a property of of federation (see email and websites) it’s just because early adopters are a little wired. In any new social phenomenon, it takes a second wave of adopters (first wave of followers) to bridge the wierdos from the masses.
Cue this classic study in leadership: https://youtu.be/hO8MwBZl-Vc be the first one to follow the wierdos and show the masses it’s cool.
I only agree with two rules: be awesome to each other (if in kind) and downvote is not a disagree button, it’s a troll button.
Dictating other rules, like the use of the edit keyword or how to measure scale of something… Is not awesome.