I like to ask a variety of questions, sometimes silly, serious, and/or strange. Never asking in an attempt to pester or ā€œjust asking questionsā€ stuff.

Iā€™m generally curious and/or trying to get a sense of peopleā€™s views.

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Any indications yet of how this may compare to similar group features or focuses via Friendica and Mobilizon respectively?


Thereā€™s really no reason for them to prefer the Fediverse over the centralized corporate platforms that basically cater to their use-case.

Wouldnā€™t a couple, maybe niche admittedly, reasons be less advertiser-influenced rules/moderation and in certain cases more control? E.g. YouTubeā€™s notorious for its algorithms affecting views abruptly & near inexplicably, whereas something like PeerTube (or for streaming, Owncast) lacks those and enables less restricted content (fewer worries about automatic ContentID noise).

Similar situation with Pixelfed instances not having to fret over folks post nudity 'cause advertisers supposedly donā€™t like their adverts next to nudity in some regions. Donā€™t get me wrong, I see where youā€™re (and theyā€™re) coming from on this, you go where the audiences are & where, give or take, certain features play to your benefit (i.e. recommendation algorithms), but Iā€™ve also seen so many creators also chafing against the awkward antics of the corporate platforms, be it YouTube, Twitch, Instagram, Twitter, Reddit, etc.


Iā€™m a little surprised across the responses so far that thereā€™s been no mention of the adoption of or migration to a fediverse platform of some prominent creatives or communities.

Itā€™s understandable why they havenā€™t given many of the issues already mentioned thus far, but in terms of others jumping in to federated services, among the least technical stumbling blocks by far is probably the absence of those (or those communities) theyā€™d like to continue following (or participating in) here. Some of that may fall under discoverability/onboarding & content or critical mass mentioned, but it still caught my eye that it wasnā€™t specifically mentioned.

I suppose by its lack of specific mention this mightnā€™t be seen as being as much of an issue?


For me, aside from picking initially between kbin and Lemmy and then picking an instance (and the whole concept of instances), it was not having an algorithmically created feed. It took a bit to wrap my mind around since all of the social media apps and sites I was used to (and still use) provides this.

This is kind of an interesting one to me, not because I disagree or anything, but because at least personally, when Iā€™ve tried to use corporate social media, I felt like I also had to do a lot of manual feed building/curation to get it to be worth anything. However, I do think where some of the algorithmic stuff helped a little was in the suggestions of similar or related pages/users, albeit somewhat rarely.

More than the algorithms it was simply the fact that it was a single platform where you knew they might be & so could search for them, so maybe it was a mixture of those details for you too?


Even if it doesnā€™t really matter which instance you begin with, the experience will be different, and thereā€™s a sense of ā€œpressureā€ at the point of signup, which doesnā€™t exist outside of the Fediverse.

Would you not say itā€™s more like it doesnā€™t exist to the same degree? Not that that diminishes your point, mind, only that in my experience online Iā€™ve found similar when it comes to other online communities, say when deciding different Discord servers to join and some requiring waiting, reacting to be able to chat, or more rarely, have 2 factor authentication enabled of all things.

Before that, and more a sign of my age I guess, it would have been different forums, different chat rooms, and the like. Each similar in basic functionalities, but different experiences and a different sense of ā€œpressureā€ to each.


What do you think some of the fediverse's primary stumbling blocks are?
For those that have poked around other fediverse stuff beyond Lemmy, and been around the spaces awhile, what's stuck out to you as stumbling blocks, or basic user experience fumbles? Which parts do you think may be technical, and which may be cultural?
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If we want people from the microblog fedi to participate we (collectively) need to up our moderation game. (And in my personal opinion instances like .world have grown too large to accomodate any reasonable expectation of moderation, except for select individual communities set up there)

Improved moderation tools would help, however are you familiar with the filtering/muting tools available on Mastodon/Firefish/Misskey? These, coupled with an ability by individual users to block entire instances, help relieve some of the need for more moderators to help by enabling individuals to essentially self-moderate/curate their experiences as desired.

I think both improved moderation and individual filtering/muting tools would help greatly both to encourage microblog folks to join in, and make the experience better for those already here.


Thanks! Trying to get a better sense of working within the constraints of smartphone cameras to learn when or if I might want to move on to a dedicated camera is why I was asking this, and I think your points have helped get a better sense of some of the constraints to take into account. Appreciate it!


Advice on using smartphone cameras?
I'm sure a lot of regular photographic techniques apply, but what might be some specifics to keep in mind with smartphone cameras in particular? For example, would camera app choice make much difference, or is stock preferred as being more likely to have the most access to the camera's hardware/sensors? What are some ways to mitigate or prevent any automatic "improvements" to photos taken via smartphone outside of whatever simple settings stock camera apps may provide? Regarding that last question, might that be the breaking point where one might prefer a more dedicated camera over a smartphone's camera?
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Itā€™s a lot easier to say to someone, ā€œHey, hereā€™s a FOSS alternative to this corporate app you already use, it functions the way youā€™re used toā€ than ā€œHereā€™s a FOSS app that does something completely new.ā€

True, but it does also lead to the question when things go awry or are awkward on the alternatives to, ā€œWhy would I use this less reliable/more complicated alternative when [corporate option] ā€˜just worksā€™?ā€ That reliability/simplicity will more often than not win out in the absence of more novel, useful differences.


What are some examples of fediverse first apps/platforms?
By fediverse first, I mean that the app/site/platform was built from the start to be federated instead of being like corporate site but FOSS & federated. In some respects it feels like many federated platforms have approached things backwards, trying to rework a centralized structure to be distributed/decentralized, creating some of the awkward UX folks experience.
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