Mastodon is figuring out how to address Gab joining its platform
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All of the Fediverse is going to have to deal with them at some point. It isn’t like the opensource systems can just ban people from setting up servers and instances. But they can take proactive measures to block them and setup databases of known fascist instances that anti-fascist instances can import. But I am not an admin or dev, so I am not sure what currently are and aren’t options. Decentralization by its nature is meant to be hard to be stopped for good and bad.
It would be hard to do a worse job than the big social networks
This is true given how FB has ignored lots of literal death squads all over the world (the others aren’t innocent of this either). But it is the one that the most people tend to use. Almost none of my friends or family use twitter sort of a link taking them there. And I believe that Instagram was pretty popular for ISIS to reach out to folks by making life with them look good.
@dRLY This is true. After all, the Fediverse really is free - as free as a social platform can be (although social platform may not be the best term to describe it). It is interesting that although a lot of other networks like MeWe, Gab or Minds just turned into mouthpieces for fascists and alt-righters, this hasn’t happened here yet. But I remember that centralized networks were also more peaceful in the beginning as well. Guess it’s all about who’s there first and who stays after.
True, it does matter either who is there first, or at least who can manage to lead a sufficient number of people there at the same time. This is the thing that has made it super hard to get away from YouTube. Either there are barriers to entry like PeerTube (obviously since it is Fediverse), or it is just so saturated with right-wingers ranging from fascists to ancaps.
Some stuff like Lbry/Odysee have managed to get some bursts of “normies” from YouTubers/podcasters that have made an effort to tell their viewers and listeners how they can get content if YT comes down on them. I personally think that the faster that apps for Lbry/Odysee and PeerTube can be used on things like Roku/PlayStation/XBox/Google Cast. Then the easier and faster more people will be able to use the platforms.
PeerTube is the real tricky one since it requires the content makers to pay attention to stuff like file sizes and other upload limits/rules are in place for their chosen instance. Which they don’t have to even think about with YT. The viewer side is just as tricky since finding new stuff/creators beyond your current instance means being active about it. Which by itself isn’t that bad, but saving stuff to your lists if something is from another server is not always super smooth to do.
Maybe there is a way for PeerTube to put an official app together that can make it easy to add instances to it in a way that would allow seeing stuff from those instances (maybe see the “Top/Popular” uploads for the day/week/etc). Then if you choose to follow a channel or save a vid to a playlist it could just add it to your actual account without having to enter the info. Then other apps could be able to use whatever api’s are used for the official app. That way the official app can be kind of like how third party GPU companies release their own versions of the “founders” versions from AMD/Nvidia but with their own additions. Or how the Fediverse can work on so many projects as long as the standards are respected.
@dRLY That would work out. I use NewPipe on my phone, which does quite a lot of these, but an official cross-platform solution like this would definitely come in handy
Imo title should say “dealt”, since it’s from 2019
Good point. 2019 is not that long ago, there’s still some lesson to learn by looking how the fediverse handled hate speech in the past.
@Austin_Skeldon
I think a good admin will only shadow ban what he doesn’t want to be shown on the global timeline.
I remember being on a server where I wanted to comment on a post on brighteon.social but I couldn’t do that because it was completely blocked which wasn’t that nice at the time 😃
At least I can start my own instance which I’m on now 😃
@DukeJava @Austin_Skeldon
Lemmy doesn’t have a shadow ban feature afaik fyi
@DukeJava
Ah okay thanks for the info. I’m on Friendica and it was on a Friendica instance. I think Friendica has the feature but I’m not entirely sure. I know for sure that Mastodon has it.
I interact with Lemmy a lot from this account 😃
:)
@Austin_Skeldon I don’t think they use ActivityPub anymore: gab.com/shadowknight412/posts/…
That Rob Colbert guy has also explained in a video why “ActivityPub sucks” on his opinion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kDtZ8MBWy8
@QuentinCallaghan
Thank you :)
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That’s good to know, thanks!
@Austin_Skeldon
You’re welcome 😃