A new startup in Fediverse space offers a unique way for people to support their favorite creatives and builders on the network.

sub.club is an emergent new platform for paid subscriptions in the #Fediverse. It’s simple, smooth, and easy to use.

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Why did’t you mention Mitra, the open source and fully decentralized Fediverse service that also offers paid subscriptions, and which has been around for several years?

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Probably because, to my knowledge:

  1. I didn’t know that Mitra did that.
  2. Even though it does have that functionality, I have no idea whether it would work with the rest of the network.
  3. This article was about sub.club

I’m not trying to slight Mitra in any way, shape, or form, but my focus for this article was scoped to one thing in particular.

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@deadsuperhero @fediverse You cite an abandoned project and withdrawn WebMonetization FEP and then say “most efforts have not advanced beyond the planning stages”. This statement is misleading because those planning stages are far behind us. Mitra had subscriptions since 2022 and there are other projects that provide monetization options, like PeerTube Lightning plugin and PeerTube Premium Users plugin. FEP-0ea0 and FEP-0837 were published and implemented. Your co-author @quillmatiq should be well aware of these developments because we talked about it

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@silverpill I’m not a co-author of this article. I contribute to WD but did not contribute to this article as it would be a conflict of interest irt my relationship with the project.

Share your info with kindness instead of anger. We’re all trying to educate and build together, and good-faith conversations go a lot further than assuming the worst of everyone.

Sean has never written a piece with the intent to erase history, and he works incredibly hard to keep things accurate.

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@quillmatiq

https://wedistribute.org/2024/03/activitypub-nomadic-identity/

In another article @deadsuperhero talked about nomadic identity and Mike Macgirvin’s efforts to implement it in ActivityPub, but similarly failed to mention another project that implements it (Mitra) and the person who wrote the spec (me).

At least my work was mentioned in a footnote. In the current article it is completely ignored.

@deadsuperhero @fediverse

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Dude, listen. I am one person running a volunteer news project for free. I try my best to stay on top of researching the space, but there’s no reasonable way for me to catch everything. I’ve written 200+ articles at this point, but due to a combination of factors, I struggle to get more than one article out per week at times. I regularly juggle a backlog of 40+ drafts at any given moment. Add a dash of burnout and fatigue, and you’ll start to get a clearer picture: it’s hard to keep up, and only getting harder.

There’s no way for me to reasonably catch everything. Mitra’s a cool project and all, but it’s tiny enough that I’ve heard relatively little about it. There are dozens of projects out there at this point, and new ones everyday. If you’re not advertising the thing you’re building and what it does, there’s a high chance I might miss it.

I keep an eye on the FEP developments from time to time, and I applaud all you’ve accomplished with that. However, the existence of a spec does not necessarily mean that platforms out there are necessarily implementing each and every one of them.

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@deadsuperhero @fediverse FEP-ef61 is what Mike was implementing and rolled out in production this summer. It’s not like we didn’t advertise that. All work on this FEP (and ones that precede it) was done in public channels, it’s really hard to miss if you’re interested in nomadic identity.

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